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the seventh fittest economy in the world. we're ranked 34th in primary education and health care. our macro economic environment is 111th. that cannot be right. our next guest says the notion that we're losing our competitive edge is widespread and pervasive, it is not necessarily correct. ed mcbride is the washington bureau chief for the author of the special ro on america competitiveness. welcome, sir. >> thank you for having me. >> would you like to tell me, and i welcome the message that things are not as bleak as we've been told. please. talk us off the ledge. >> well, as you said, there is a the love hand wringing, a lot of reports. these dire statistic that's seem so dreadful. it is almost impossible to remember they're true. 111th? that's to do with the size of the national debt basically. but what all these gloomy sort of hand wringing accounts neglect, they focus on washington and on gridlock and on the failure to resolve all the questions about the budget and they don't look at what's going on in the rest of the country. the good news is, that in the rest country, people aren't s
and our educational institutions is our attention to the poor and the social justice. he has taken name francis, the apostle of the poor, and has talked about the poor and marginalized ever since he started. i think the theme of poverty and taking care of the poor and as he said on sunday, a church of the poor and for the poor is going to be a theme of his papacy. >> by the way, father martin, i have joe in the second round of the tournament. claudio, you mentioned the dramatic gesture there of the pope getting out of the motorcade and working the crowd like that. i just think the inaugural parade here in the united states when jimmy carter broke with tradition, got out and backed down pennsylvania. how dramatic that was. does that say anything about how the relationship of this pope, with catholic worldwide will be different than the relationship benedict had with them? >> indeed it is. the pope breaks with the rules and breaks with tradition and vatican security as well. on sunday, for instance, he was holding a small mass inside the small parish inside the vatican walls. of course, t
born here or came here as very young children. and i think they've participated in our education system, our political system even though they haven't been voting so they've been inform by that. it is natural they would demand their rights because they've been following the political system since they were children, most of them. >> all right. thank you so much for being here. i'm going to send you a copy of my book. >> oh, i can't wait. you got the mention in. >> up next -- i just do it to mention it. >> from the office to playing the field. how to be top dog. apparently it has something to do with the shape of your hands. behind who wins and who loses. keep it on the best show hands down. ♪ [ acoustic guitar: upbeat ] [ dog ] we found it together. on a walk, walk, walk. love to walk. yeah, we found that wonderful thing. and you smiled. and threw it. and i decided i would never, ever leave it anywhere. because that wonderful, bouncy, roll-around thing... had made you play. and that... had made you smile. [ announcer ] beneful. play. it's good for you. mr. wiggles and curling irons. f
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